[klee-dev] Working with fixed memory locations.
Marco Vanotti
mvanotti at dc.uba.ar
Tue Jun 21 01:41:02 BST 2022
Hi Daniel,
Thanks a lot for your suggestion. I've tried it and it solved the issue.
However, it moved it down to the solvers. Now it is STP and Z3 who get
their stacks blown up. See the backtrace here:
https://pastebin.com/raw/WE2M0bJf
I also set `ulimit -s unlimited` and now they all seem to be running.
This is what I am observing:
For the Z3 solver, KLEE has been running for ~25hs now and kept a steady
memory usage of ~35GiB. I don't know if it's making progress or if it is
stuck. Launch params: *--optimize-array=all --simplify-sym-indices
--solver-backend=z3*
For the STP solver, KLEE has been running for ~22hs (launch params:
*--optimize-array=all
--solver-backend=stp*), and I now realize that the behavior I described in
the previous email was due to the *-use-forked-server *default option. What
I am seeing is that new processes get spawned and consume progressively
more memory. Right now the child process runs for 50 minutes and consumes
155GiB of memory.
Here are some questions:
(1) Does it make sense to disable the forked server that wouldn't change
anything (in terms of speed and resource usage).
(2) Is there a way to see how these solvers are making progress?
(3) I ran the same experiment, but with *klee_assume(input[0] == 'x'),
input[i] = solution[i]* (i.e: setting an assumption on one byte of the
input and making the rest concrete). I expected this to finish sooner with
an answer, but it seems like it doesn't. Does this indicate that there's
something else symbolic besides my *klee_make_symbolic* call?
Best Regards,
Marco
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:04 AM Daniel Schemmel <d.schemmel at imperial.ac.uk>
wrote:
> Hi Marco,
>
> I had a look at your stack trace, and the crash might have been caused by
> KLEE when building the solver query before passing it to the actual solver.
> Could you check out https://github.com/klee/klee/pull/1523 and see if
> that changes anything for you?
>
> Best,
> Daniel
> On 2022-06-18 01:12, Marco Vanotti wrote:
>
> Hi Cristian,
>
> Thanks for your answer. I have tried *--optimize-array=all*, but that
> didn't fix the problem :(.
>
> It would be a better user experience to get an error message instead of a
> segfault. In any case, if this is stopping because it's running out of
> memory, is there a way to remove that restriction? My server still had a
> few GiB to spare 😅.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 2:53 AM Cristian Cadar <c.cadar at imperial.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marco, you seem to be reaching an issue with the solver, which is
>> having trouble reasoning about the huge symbolic array (requiring
>> excessive time and memory). You should try to shrink that array if
>> possible. You can also try --optimize-array=all, but it might not help
>> in your case.
>>
>> Best,
>> Cristian
>>
>> On 17/06/2022 05:02, Marco Vanotti wrote:
>> > After letting it run for a few hours I've observed that klee spawns a
>> > subprocess that keeps growing on memory until it reaches ~100GiB and
>> > then it stops and restarts again.
>> > Nothing is being printed indicating an error, but I'm not sure if the
>> > behavior is normal. This is with KLEE from the docker container.
>> >
>> > I've tried building KLEE from source, both with STP and Z3 support, and
>> > running my program makes it crash with a segfault :(
>> >
>> > Here is the backtrace for the crash with the STP solver:
>> > https://pastebin.com/raw/xpf9D9VD <https://pastebin.com/raw/xpf9D9VD>
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Marco
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 3:48 PM Marco Vanotti <mvanotti at dc.uba.ar
>> > <mailto:mvanotti at dc.uba.ar>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Martin, Manuel,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your answer :) !
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Nowack, Martin
>> > <m.nowack at imperial.ac.uk <mailto:m.nowack at imperial.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Marco,
>> >
>> > Maybe the following helps you:
>> >
>> https://github.com/klee/klee/blob/292600cf54d5fd73278f67a4f98c2f955cbdaa10/test/Feature/DefineFixedObject.c
>> > <
>> https://github.com/klee/klee/blob/292600cf54d5fd73278f67a4f98c2f955cbdaa10/test/Feature/DefineFixedObject.c
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This seems to be what I am looking for, thanks!. I tried using it
>> > for small variables and it works. However, for a big object
>> > (0x256000 bytes) it shows the following warning:
>> >
>> > *KLEE: WARNING ONCE*: flushing 2449408 bytes on read, may be slow
>> > and/or crash: MO195[2449408] allocated at main(): call void
>> > @klee_define_fixed_object(i8* inttoptr (i64 8404992 to i8*), i64
>> > 2449408), !dbg !171
>> > KLEE is still running, so maybe it just means it is slow.
>> >
>> > I went with the approach of having my blob as a global variable, and
>> > then `memcpy` it into the address after calling define_fixed_object.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >> On 16. Jun 2022, at 20:43, Carrasco, Manuel G
>> >> <m.carrasco at imperial.ac.uk <mailto:m.carrasco at imperial.ac.uk>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Marco!
>> >>
>> >> I have a program that when compiled, adds a program header
>> >> that loads a data blob into a fixed memory location.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sorry to ask, but could you explain a bit more how this
>> >> works? At first glance, I'd say that if any of this happens on
>> >> a stage later than LLVM-IR, it may be hard to mimic in KLEE.
>> >
>> > I have a bunch of files that I add as .incbin into a section, and
>> > then my linker scripts put them in a fixed address when it links the
>> > program altogether. I think there is no way this would work with
>> > LLVM IR.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> As far as I understand, when KLEEexecutes a LLVM-IR load
>> >> instruction
>> >> <
>> https://github.com/klee/klee/blob/master/lib/Core/Executor.cpp#L2722>,
>> >> it will try tofind
>> >> <
>> https://github.com/klee/klee/blob/master/lib/Core/Executor.cpp#L4191>the
>> >> MemoryObjects (more than one if it is a symbolic pointer) that
>> >> contain the address. Conceptually, you want KLEE to somehow
>> >> have a MemoryObject at the hardcoded address.
>> >>
>> >> One way to go could be modelling this as a LLVM-IR
>> >> GlobalVariable at your fixed address with the content of your
>> >> blob. If this makes sense, you may want to check thisfunction
>> >> <
>> https://github.com/klee/klee/blob/master/lib/Core/Executor.cpp#L648>and
>> >> addExternalObject perhaps as well.
>> >
>> > Thanks! This looks interesting, but I am a bit puzzled about how to
>> > go with this. Should I recompile KLEE to add support for my use
>> > case? I checked on the MemoryManager class and it seems like it just
>> > allocates stuff at whatever place is available.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I apologise if you already know this!
>> >
>> >
>> > I did not know any of that :) This is the second time I am using
>> > KLEE, and the first one was a big failure :P
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Marco
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Manuel.
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> *From:*klee-dev-bounces at imperial.ac.uk
>> >> <mailto:klee-dev-bounces at imperial.ac.uk>
>> >> <klee-dev-bounces at imperial.ac.uk
>> >> <mailto:klee-dev-bounces at imperial.ac.uk>> on behalf of Marco
>> >> Vanotti <mvanotti at dc.uba.ar <mailto:mvanotti at dc.uba.ar>>
>> >> *Sent:*16 June 2022 18:55
>> >> *To:*klee-dev <klee-dev at imperial.ac.uk
>> >> <mailto:klee-dev at imperial.ac.uk>>
>> >> *Subject:*[klee-dev] Working with fixed memory locations.
>> >> Hi klee-dev!
>> >>
>> >> I am new to KLEE, and have a question about using it with one
>> >> of my programs.
>> >>
>> >> I have a program that when compiled, adds a program header
>> >> that loads a data blob into a fixed memory location.
>> >>
>> >> This means that my program has this fixed memory location
>> >> hardcoded all around the place (also this blob has references
>> >> to itself).
>> >>
>> >> I would like to load my program in KLEE to get a better
>> >> understanding of how it works. The problem I am facing is that
>> >> I have no idea how to make KLEE understand that I need this
>> >> blob mapped in that address.
>> >>
>> >> This are the things I've tried:
>> >>
>> >> * Using wllvm/gclang to get the full program linked together,
>> >> following my link script, then extracting the bc and running
>> >> that with KLEE. This didn't work. KLEE complains that the
>> >> pointers are invalid.
>> >>
>> >> * Manually embedding the blob into my program as an array,
>> >> then calling `mmap` with `MAP_FIXED` to map the area that I
>> >> want and copying over the blob.
>> >>
>> >> The issue here is that MAP_FIXED returns EPERM because
>> >> probably the address range I am trying to map is already
>> mapped.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> * Setting the KLEE deterministic allocations to encompass the
>> >> range that I care about, then doing a big `malloc` and making
>> >> sure that my range is inside that malloc chunk.
>> >>
>> >> For this last one, I am using flags like:
>> >> --allocate-determ --allocate-determ-start-address=8404992
>> >> --allocate-determ-size=3145728
>> >>
>> >> One of the things that I see is that KLEE fails to mmap big
>> >> chunks (in the order of 100MiB). But even if I decrease the
>> >> size, I still get failures when I try to assert things like:
>> >>
>> >> uintptr_t malloc_addr = (uintptr_t) malloc(malloc_size);
>> >> klee_assert(BASE_ADDR >= malloc_addr);
>> >> klee_assert(BASE_ADDR < malloc_addr + malloc_size);
>> >>
>> >> ------
>> >>
>> >> Something that might be relevant is that in reality I need two
>> >> of these blobs loaded into different regions of memory, but so
>> >> far I can't even get to load one. And they are not too far
>> >> apart from each other, so if, for example, the malloc approach
>> >> works, I could just increase the size and make the two
>> >> allocations.
>> >>
>> >> One thing that might complicate things, is that these
>> >> addresses might collide with where KLEE tries to load the
>> >> program. I don't know how to deal with that either.
>> >>
>> >> Any advice on how to tune KLEE for this use case?
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >> Marco
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