Paul has volunteered (was Re: Overloaded URIs must GO!)

Jonathan Borden jborden at
Tue Jun 1 04:54:13 BST 1999

Paul Prescod wrote:
> Tim Bray wrote:
> >
> > At 12:47 PM 5/31/99 -0500, Paul Prescod wrote:
> > >> > Using HTTP for URIs sounds intrinsically <em>bad</em> to me.  ...
> >
> > >Well, the first problem is that it is wrong: it is in violation of IETF
> > >specifications about the semantics of http: URLs. Personally,
> I think that
> > >standards incompliance should be argument enough.
> >
> > No.  The IETF docs explain how a URI may be used to reference a resource
> > on the Web.  They further say that URIs are in fact designed to
> facilitate
> > this process.  There is nothing in there I've seen stating that
> they *must*
> > be so used, nor that they may not be used for other purposes.  Or am
> > I missing something? -Tim
> I'm talking specifically about the definition of HTTP URLs.
> "The HTTP URL scheme is used to designate Internet resources accessible
> using HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol)."
> (I guess from a formal logic perspective it should end with "and no
> others")

> If you use them to designate non-Internet resources NOT accessible by HTTP
> then I consider that an obvious abuse, even if the HTTP spec. isn't
> sufficiently anal to disallow the practice from a formal logic
> perspective.
	I still fail to see what actual, current and/or practical problem this
creates with respect to XML namespaces?

> If we take advantage of this formal logic loophole then the elephants can
> come barging through.
	What elephants will come barging through where and what will they do when
they get there?

Jonathan Borden

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