an unfilled need

Steve Schafer pandeng at
Fri Sep 10 18:13:23 BST 1999

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:58:04 -0700, you wrote:

>Insofar as there is always a way to hack around the limitations of the
>CURRENT model it is essentially impossible to sell the benefits of the
>new model in simple terms. Rather, the listener needs to have wrestled
>with the problem and needs to have developed a dislike for ad hoc
>half-answers. And there are still smart people who I respect that reject
>both OO and the relational model so I wouldn't expect groves to ever be
>uncontroversial. I am still discovering the Zen of OO and the Zen of
>relational myself so how could I brain-dump the Zen of groves (which I
>am also still discovering)? 

A good set of non-trivial, concrete examples would be useful. People
won't be convinced to try the New Thing if they can't see how to apply
it to familiar problems.


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