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<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The
big fat Cue book (I think it is called "Using SGML") has a chapter
relating Smalltalk to SGML.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Steve
Newcomb has pointed out (reference lost-sorry) that SGML/XML and OO to a large
extent have dissimilar goals, in that SGML/XML (i.e. generic markup) are
attempts to (allow you to) have your data INDEPENDENT of particular methods
while OO is an attempt to bundle methods with data. However, since the
introduction of the PI target in XML, it is better to say that SGML/XML are
attempts to (allow you to) have your data in a form which allows multiple
methods to be attached. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The
big fat Holzer book (I think it is called "XML Complete") is
full of code and analysis relating Java to XML. (But the reviews on amazon.com
suggest that it may relate to a superceded version of MSXML too
much.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>In a
sense, a lot of the questions about OO and XML may already be answered, in that
XML/SGML embody a particular document system design methodology (i.e.
generalized markup) and because common parsers will be using three
APIs:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial size=2> * SAX, which XML-DEV contributed
to</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial size=2> * DOM, see <A
href="http://www.w3.org/TR">www.w3.org/TR</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial size=2> * GROVES: this is the big daddy of them
all, and is not so much an API as an analysis of the properties needed for a
complete and general SGML/XML/HyTime "parse tree". (In fact any data
format whcih can be parsed into a tree with inter-node directed-graph arcs can
be represented by GROVE, e.g. CGM the graphics format. Using the same GROVE
concept allows navigation languages like Xptr to be defined that can locate
particular nodes in the tree, regardless of what notation the tree was parsed
from.) The GROVES information is at <A
href="http://www.ornl.gov/sgml/wg8/docs/n1920/html/clause-7.1.html#clause-7.1.4">http://www.ornl.gov/sgml/wg8/docs/n1920/html/clause-7.1.html#clause-7.1.4</A>
might be useful place to start.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>My big
fat book, The XML and SGML Cookbook, does not have much OO in it (intentionally:
there is no progamming code in it). Instead have put in chapter 3 "Software
Engineering" a summary of various methodologies used in practise for
developing DTDs. This is because once you have the generalized model OK, you can
add methods (explicitly by using #FIXED attributes in the DTD, or by invoking a
CSS-like stylesheet where there is an element type to contain mthod code or
location, or by using PIs.) So the emphasis is that the more richly
and appropriately your data is marked up, the less programming work (including
OO analysis and design) there is to do.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>There
is a widespread feeling in the SGML world that you should mark up data
independent of any particular use of it. However, I certainly believe that a
good DTD design will be informed by the known and potential uses of the data. In
a way it comes down to whether you view XML as a "serialization
format" format, where it is just dumping data from a known schema and known
application, or whether it is "markup language" where you want to
expose interesting and useful information to make life simpler for future
software development.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=628024319-10071998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Rick
Jelliffe</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk">owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk</A>
[mailto:owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Amit
Rekhi<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 10 July 1998 23:12<BR><B>To:</B> XML Mail
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Merging Object Oriented Design and SGML
Architectures<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
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Could anyone please guide to articles/technical notes regarding OOD and SGML
Architectures.</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>
Any help will be greatly appreciated</FONT></DIV>
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Thanx,</FONT></DIV>
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AMIT</FONT></DIV>
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