Alternatives to the W3C

[Steven Livingstone]

> #1 doesn't make sense to me, since half the messages on the Web
development
> mailing lists I get are about cross-platform Web developmet - IE/NS/Opera,
> Mac/PC/Unix, etc. Are you just talking about the poor sods who are forced
> to exist (some choose to exist) in Windows-only environments and develop
> for Intranets?

I think we are forced to do this for two reasons:

1. The users want a interface like "the one we had before" which typically
means a client/server based application. Netscape (and no doubt Opera) are
*very* unusable in this context, although you can get Netscape to do a bit
of what you want after a lot of coding. IE just does it and allows us to use
XML, so I don't know if such users would be so poor - indeed achieving the
benefits offered by XML woudl imply the exact opposite to me. !? I have been
able to break all of my applications into complely seperate layers from XML
to COM and it's great ! I can even make it look and work liek a windows
app - the business wants this and they pay for the systems.

2. No-one else seems interested in the fact that app dev is moving this way.
I have been told that the next version of Netscape won't offer support for
XML and XSL - at least that is hte case for the current test version.

SOAP/XMLRPC enables different platforms and languages to talk to each other,
but that's as far as we've got so far.

Cheers
Steven

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----- Original Message -----
From: Simon St.Laurent <simonstl at simonstl.com>
To: <xml-dev at ic.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to the W3C


> At 01:38 PM 1/19/00 -0800, Dave Winer wrote:
> >We've had this discussion at length on my site, and reached a conclusion.
> >There are two types of developers in the world:
> >
> >1. Web developers, who must look at the content exactly as their users
look
> >at it. For these people, today, that's MSIE 5.x on Windows, not any
content
> >handler, that specific one.
> >
> >2. Everyone else.
>
> #1 doesn't make sense to me, since half the messages on the Web
development
> mailing lists I get are about cross-platform Web developmet - IE/NS/Opera,
> Mac/PC/Unix, etc. Are you just talking about the poor sods who are forced
> to exist (some choose to exist) in Windows-only environments and develop
> for Intranets?
>
> If so, I'd say #2 is way too broad a category, if it isn't already.
>
> Simon St.Laurent
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