[OT] Re: Geoworks and their patent

Len Bullard cbullard at hiwaay.net
Wed Jan 26 03:20:04 GMT 2000

KenNorth wrote:

> Granted the Java concept came from Sun, but many of the Java APIs are the
> product of a collaborative effort. For example, when specifying JDBC, Sun
> worked with IBM and database companies.

Errrm..no.  The idea of the virtual machine had been around for some 
time before Java was implemented.  That has been brought up in several 
forums.  Java is as much a trademark as anything else.
> XML is not the invention of a single company. The XML specs are a
> collaborative effort. The XML/XSL working groups include participants from a
> variety of W3C members, including IBM.

XML is not an invention.  It is a specification which originates in the 
intellectual property of ISO 8879, and prior to that, in efforts of 
individual groups to solve problems with interoperable publishing
That is why XML is referred to as a subset and not an application of 

You'll also find that some SGML systems documented their required tags 
in instance format, not DTDs, so even the schemas have prior art.

Nothing GNU under the Sun.


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